Legal Observer training for EDL protests

 

In preparation for protests at the English Defence League's demonstration in Glasgow on Saturday 14th November there will be a legal observer's training session on Monday 7th November at 6.30 in the Glasgow Social Centre.

 If you are interested in playing a useful role during the protests then you could become one of the independent legal observers who will be monitoring the situation in Glasgow city centre during the day.

Our volunteer legal observers will be recording if anyone gets arrested or faces violence from the police/ fascists. As well as our team of volunteers we urge anyone thinking of taking direct action on 14th November to take legal support seriously and to make sure to arrange their own legal observers to work with us.

We have already made arrangements for a legal support office in Glasgow to provide legal support and have arranged for lawyers to be available. Bust cards are being printed with a Legal Support contact number for people to phone if they get arrested, want to let us know about anyone who has been arrested or want to find out about people who have been arrested.

Any information given to us will be held confidentially and will never be divulged to the police or media. So that there is no misunderstanding we would like to make it clear that we are deliberately NOT impartial - we will NEVER extend legal support to any fascists who are arrested.

The training will explain more about how to do legal support and sort out arrangements for the 14th November. If you are interested in helping please come along to the meeting at the Glasgow Social Centre on Monday 9th November

A map of how to find the social centre can be found here: maps.google.co.uk/maps

This is part of the newly-formed Scottish Activist Legal Project - briefings and other useful bits and bobs wil go on-line soon - watch this space!

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Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

I hope that the efforts of the left wing and muslim estremists to deny those who object to Islamic extremism will be a total failure. The British people have had enough of your message of hate and we will make a stand to defend our ancient freedoms. Hitler and the USSR could not take away our freedom and neither will these UAF bigots and the Islamic extremists which they shelter.

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

Anonymous wrote:

I hope that the efforts of the left wing and muslim estremists to deny those who object to Islamic extremism will be a total failure. The British people have had enough of your message of hate and we will make a stand to defend our ancient freedoms. Hitler and the USSR could not take away our freedom and neither will these UAF bigots and the Islamic extremists which they shelter.

why can't you get it through your head. most normal people oppose extremeism of any sort, be it religious, political or whatever. that is why most people oppose your moronic racist  nonsense.

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

FrostyJ wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I hope that the efforts of the left wing and muslim estremists to deny those who object to Islamic extremism will be a total failure. The British people have had enough of your message of hate and we will make a stand to defend our ancient freedoms. Hitler and the USSR could not take away our freedom and neither will these UAF bigots and the Islamic extremists which they shelter.

why can't you get it through your head. most normal people oppose extremeism of any sort, be it religious, political or whatever. that is why most people oppose your moronic racist  nonsense.

What is rascist about protestesting against Islamic extremeism?

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

Protesing against Islamic extremisim is fine. But what extremisim are the EDL / SDL  protesting about in Glasgow exactly? They have not produced any evidence of extremism of any kind so it seems that they are not simply protesting against extremisim but are in fact protesting against muslims who are only simply following their religion.

As Islam is still very much a minority religion in Scotland, followed predominantly by members of ethnic minorities with Asian, Arabic or African backgrounds, then protesting against muslims who are only following their religion is very much a racist thing to do.

Also why only protest against muslim extremism? What about, for example Christian extremisim? Or Jewish extremism? Why not protest against ALL religous extremisim? Again it seems that muslim extremism has been chosen for these protests only because Islam is practiced largely by ethnic minorities so again protesting is very much a racist thing to do.

150 years ago it was claimed that 'Fenians' amongst the Catholic immigrant population were a terroist threat. 100 years ago it was Jews escaping the pogroms in Czarist Russia who were blamed for bringing 'foreign' revolutionary ideas to Britain. 50 years ago, Afro-Caribbeans arriving in the UK were going to lead to "Rivers of Blood". Now muslims are the supposed threat that the racists latch upon. It is not new and using scare stories is not a new tactic.

For your information the 2001 census for Scotland shows that there were only 42,600 muslims in Scotland making up only 0.84 per cent of the population. That is compared to Christians who made up 65 per cent of the population in Scotland. (that's 3.29 million people.)

So I'm not going to hold my breath whilst waiting for Sharia Law to happen or any such nonsense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

monday the 9th not the 7th!

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

Anonymous wrote:

Protesing against Islamic extremisim is fine. But what extremisim are the EDL / SDL  protesting about in Glasgow exactly? They have not produced any evidence of extremism of any kind so it seems that they are not simply protesting against extremisim but are in fact protesting against muslims who are only simply following their religion.

As Islam is still very much a minority religion in Scotland, followed predominantly by members of ethnic minorities with Asian, Arabic or African backgrounds, then protesting against muslims who are only following their religion is very much a racist thing to do.

Also why only protest against muslim extremism? What about, for example Christian extremisim? Or Jewish extremism? Why not protest against ALL religous extremisim? Again it seems that muslim extremism has been chosen for these protests only because Islam is practiced largely by ethnic minorities so again protesting is very much a racist thing to do.

150 years ago it was claimed that 'Fenians' amongst the Catholic immigrant population were a terroist threat. 100 years ago it was Jews escaping the pogroms in Czarist Russia who were blamed for bringing 'foreign' revolutionary ideas to Britain. 50 years ago, Afro-Caribbeans arriving in the UK were going to lead to "Rivers of Blood". Now muslims are the supposed threat that the racists latch upon. It is not new and using scare stories is not a new tactic.

For your information the 2001 census for Scotland shows that there were only 42,600 muslims in Scotland making up only 0.84 per cent of the population. That is compared to Christians who made up 65 per cent of the population in Scotland. (that's 3.29 million people.)

So I'm not going to hold my breath whilst waiting for Sharia Law to happen or any such nonsense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Islamic countries do not have a great record of human rights do they? There is more than enough evidence to prove that Islam is a threat to our nation. If you had any guts you would do something about it instead of trying to accuse everyoneone who opposes the Islaminisation of Britian of beinf "fascists". Britian stood up against Hitler and the IRA and we must stand up aginanst those who are trying to take away our liberty, heritage and laws today.

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

     Anonymous wrote: 

Islamic countries do not have a great record of human rights do they? There is more than enough evidence to prove that Islam is a threat to our nation. If you had any guts you would do something about it instead of trying to accuse everyoneone who opposes the Islaminisation of Britian of beinf "fascists". Britian stood up against Hitler and the IRA and we must stand up aginanst those who are trying to take away our liberty, heritage and laws today.

Britain has invaded Ireland many times and tried to take away Irelands "liberty, heritage and laws" - this is a historical fact. The IRA were formed to fight against their "liberty heritage and laws" being taken away by Britain - they went on to committ acts of terror against civilians which were unnaceptable - but they were responding to similar and worse acts.

Britain has one of the worst human rights record in Europe. The Tories want to scrap the human rights act, (as do the BNP). So, im not sure we are in good position to criticise other countries on the basis of the human rights act!

Im more worried about the white non-muslims like Peter Mandelson, and all the other rich Toffs and Tories who wants every working class person in Britain to be a "flexible, modern worker" - basically no pension, no sick pay, they can sack us when they feel like it, reduce our pay when they feel like it.

Why is Britain a country to be proud of? I dont see it. The toffs and tories who run this 'great' country are fucking over working class people. We should have marches and rallies against this! There is unemployment and people losing their homes because these rich politicians borrowed money to bail out their mates in the bank. So to pay back the loan, it is working class people getting it in the neck, rather than the rich people who put us in this situation in the first place.

The boss of the Royal Mail got paid £3,000,000 last year, but he says that the workers need to work harder and get paid less! What a joke. 

 

 

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

For your information the 2001 census for Scotland shows that there were only 42,600 muslims in Scotland making up only 0.84 per cent of the population. That is compared to Christians who made up 65 per cent of the population in Scotland. (that's 3.29 million people.) 

Islamic countries do not have a great record of human rights do they? There is more than enough evidence to prove that Islam is a threat to our nation. If you had any guts you would do something about it instead of trying to accuse everyoneone who opposes the Islaminisation of Britian of beinf "fascists". Britian stood up against Hitler and the IRA and we must stand up aginanst those who are trying to take away our liberty, heritage and laws today.

Love the idea of "standing up" to the "threat" of a tiny fraction of 40,000 people being equivalent to the fight against Hitler.

If "fascist" isn't accurate enough, maybe you would prefer "hysterical racist"?

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

Jon B wrote:
     Anonymous wrote: 

Islamic countries do not have a great record of human rights do they? There is more than enough evidence to prove that Islam is a threat to our nation. If you had any guts you would do something about it instead of trying to accuse everyoneone who opposes the Islaminisation of Britian of beinf "fascists". Britian stood up against Hitler and the IRA and we must stand up aginanst those who are trying to take away our liberty, heritage and laws today.

Britain has invaded Ireland many times and tried to take away Irelands "liberty, heritage and laws" - this is a historical fact. The IRA were formed to fight against their "liberty heritage and laws" being taken away by Britain - they went on to committ acts of terror against civilians which were unnaceptable - but they were responding to similar and worse acts.

Britain has one of the worst human rights record in Europe. The Tories want to scrap the human rights act, (as do the BNP). So, im not sure we are in good position to criticise other countries on the basis of the human rights act!

Im more worried about the white non-muslims like Peter Mandelson, and all the other rich Toffs and Tories who wants every working class person in Britain to be a "flexible, modern worker" - basically no pension, no sick pay, they can sack us when they feel like it, reduce our pay when they feel like it.

Why is Britain a country to be proud of? I dont see it. The toffs and tories who run this 'great' country are fucking over working class people. We should have marches and rallies against this! There is unemployment and people losing their homes because these rich politicians borrowed money to bail out their mates in the bank. So to pay back the loan, it is working class people getting it in the neck, rather than the rich people who put us in this situation in the first place.

The boss of the Royal Mail got paid £3,000,000 last year, but he says that the workers need to work harder and get paid less! What a joke. 

 

 

Oh great another IRA loving left wing bigot. If you hate Britian so much go and live in some corrupt communist country and see how well you get on.

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

CH wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

For your information the 2001 census for Scotland shows that there were only 42,600 muslims in Scotland making up only 0.84 per cent of the population. That is compared to Christians who made up 65 per cent of the population in Scotland. (that's 3.29 million people.) 

Islamic countries do not have a great record of human rights do they? There is more than enough evidence to prove that Islam is a threat to our nation. If you had any guts you would do something about it instead of trying to accuse everyoneone who opposes the Islaminisation of Britian of beinf "fascists". Britian stood up against Hitler and the IRA and we must stand up aginanst those who are trying to take away our liberty, heritage and laws today.

Love the idea of "standing up" to the "threat" of a tiny fraction of 40,000 people being equivalent to the fight against Hitler.

If "fascist" isn't accurate enough, maybe you would prefer "hysterical racist"?

Protesting against Islamic extremeism does not make someone a "fascist" or a "hysterical racist". If 40,000 people do not pose a threat to democracy then neither will a few SDL members.

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

Jon B wrote:
     Anonymous wrote: 

Islamic countries do not have a great record of human rights do they? There is more than enough evidence to prove that Islam is a threat to our nation. If you had any guts you would do something about it instead of trying to accuse everyoneone who opposes the Islaminisation of Britian of beinf "fascists". Britian stood up against Hitler and the IRA and we must stand up aginanst those who are trying to take away our liberty, heritage and laws today.

Britain has invaded Ireland many times and tried to take away Irelands "liberty, heritage and laws" - this is a historical fact. The IRA were formed to fight against their "liberty heritage and laws" being taken away by Britain - they went on to committ acts of terror against civilians which were unnaceptable - but they were responding to similar and worse acts.

Britain has one of the worst human rights record in Europe. The Tories want to scrap the human rights act, (as do the BNP). So, im not sure we are in good position to criticise other countries on the basis of the human rights act!

Im more worried about the white non-muslims like Peter Mandelson, and all the other rich Toffs and Tories who wants every working class person in Britain to be a "flexible, modern worker" - basically no pension, no sick pay, they can sack us when they feel like it, reduce our pay when they feel like it.

Why is Britain a country to be proud of? I dont see it. The toffs and tories who run this 'great' country are fucking over working class people. We should have marches and rallies against this! There is unemployment and people losing their homes because these rich politicians borrowed money to bail out their mates in the bank. So to pay back the loan, it is working class people getting it in the neck, rather than the rich people who put us in this situation in the first place.

The boss of the Royal Mail got paid £3,000,000 last year, but he says that the workers need to work harder and get paid less! What a joke. 

 

 

I notice how you did not condemn the IRAs murder of young Scottish soldiers or any members of the security forces. The Left wings fascination with the IRA only goes to show that they can not be trusted.

And there was me thinking this was wasting my time

Anonymous wrote:

If you hate Britian so much go and live in some corrupt communist country and see how well you get on.

YES! I've been waiting for someone to post that for 5 years!

Re: Legal Observer training for EDL protests

Anonymous wrote:
CH wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

For your information the 2001 census for Scotland shows that there were only 42,600 muslims in Scotland making up only 0.84 per cent of the population. That is compared to Christians who made up 65 per cent of the population in Scotland. (that's 3.29 million people.) 

Islamic countries do not have a great record of human rights do they? There is more than enough evidence to prove that Islam is a threat to our nation. If you had any guts you would do something about it instead of trying to accuse everyoneone who opposes the Islaminisation of Britian of beinf "fascists". Britian stood up against Hitler and the IRA and we must stand up aginanst those who are trying to take away our liberty, heritage and laws today.

Love the idea of "standing up" to the "threat" of a tiny fraction of 40,000 people being equivalent to the fight against Hitler.

If "fascist" isn't accurate enough, maybe you would prefer "hysterical racist"?

Protesting against Islamic extremeism does not make someone a "fascist" or a "hysterical racist". If 40,000 people do not pose a threat to democracy then neither will a few SDL members.

"a tiny fraction of 40,000 people," supposedly pushing an extremist agenda, that has no possibility of ever coming off. Or is it all Muslims you want to protest against?

If you're worried about this as being likely, then you're being hysterical. If you find the politics objectionable, fair enough but there are white evangelical christian groups pushing similar nonsense, so where's your protests against the extremist Christian preachers that Glasgow is infested with? Or do you only object when reactionary theocratic bollocks comes from brown-skinned people?

As for the EDL, they're a nasty part of the majority population with an agenda that the racist press is extremely sympathetic to. That's why they need to be stopped.

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