Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Pubs and bars in the centre of Edinburgh are being called upon by anti-fascist campaigners to ban the bigoted "Scottish" Defence League, before their racist demonstration on the 20th of February.

At previous events, the SDL and its parent organisation the English Defence League, have met in pubs to get drunk before their racist demonstrations. As such the Edinburgh Anti-Fascist Alliance have contacted over a hundred Edinburgh pubs, asking them to ban the SDL from their establishments, and to report any meetings of the SDL to the police.

A spokesperson for Edinburgh Anti-Fascist Alliance said: "We are sure that Edinburgh pubs are welcoming to anyone of any ethnic or religious background, so we thought it best to warn them that the racist SDL might take advantage of their hospitality on the 20th of February."

The SDL are an offshoot of the English Defence League, and have strong links to racist and fascist organisations including the National Front, and the British National Party. They often make Nazi salutes at their demonstrations, and chant racist slogans.

A spokesperson said: "We are a group of local people who are opposing the Scottish Defence Leagues demonstration planned for Edinburgh on the 20th February. We urge everyone who hates racism and fascism to join with us in opposing the SDL."

An annoyed spokesman for the SDL is reported in the Sunday Herald as saying: “Who are the fascists, telling people they can’t go into a public house? On what basis can you ban a group of people from going into a pub? These pubs are scared of these people, who come up and smash them up if they are not intimidated enough to close. No matter what happens we’ll be there in Edinburgh.”

Dozens of pubs have already agreed to ban the racist SDL, however Whetherspoons are tacitly supporting them, saying that they wont stop the SDL meeting in their pub. Their press spokesman said in the Sunday Herald today, "What anti-fascists think is right, corporations don’t".

www.edinburghantifascist.org.uk
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Article in the Sunday Herald.

 

Comments

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

You hypocrite! You are the one who is trying to stop people going to the pub, just because they don't share your left wing wishy washy political views! Pot calling the kettle black methinks!!

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:

You hypocrite! You are the one who is trying to stop people going to the pub, just because they don't share your left wing wishy washy political views! Pot calling the kettle black methinks!!

Oh la la la, laa la Oh la la land, la la baa baa la la,

Just thought I would speak to you in your own La la land language, see if I could get through!? 

I actually want you to come to Edinburgh as there's only one road in and no road out for the EDL now!! - you will be slayed where you stand HIBS - HEARTS STAND UNITED.

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You hypocrite! You are the one who is trying to stop people going to the pub, just because they don't share your left wing wishy washy political views! Pot calling the kettle black methinks!!

Oh la la la, laa la Oh la la land, la la baa baa la la,

Just thought I would speak to you in your own La la land language, see if I could get through!? 

I actually want you to come to Edinburgh as there's only one road in and no road out for the EDL now!! - you will be slayed where you stand HIBS - HEARTS STAND UNITED.

It is actualy the SDL and not the EDL who are organising a protest against Islamic extremeism. I personaly wont be taking part in the protest but I believe that people should be allowed to meet freely to protest without the threat of thugs threatening them with violence.

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You hypocrite! You are the one who is trying to stop people going to the pub, just because they don't share your left wing wishy washy political views! Pot calling the kettle black methinks!!

Oh la la la, laa la Oh la la land, la la baa baa la la,

Just thought I would speak to you in your own La la land language, see if I could get through!? 

I actually want you to come to Edinburgh as there's only one road in and no road out for the EDL now!! - you will be slayed where you stand HIBS - HEARTS STAND UNITED.

It is actualy the SDL and not the EDL who are organising a protest against Islamic extremeism. I personaly wont be taking part in the protest but I believe that people should be allowed to meet freely to protest without the threat of thugs threatening them with violence.

 

EDL is the SDL it's just clever spin for F's sake there being bused in from England, E/SDL is just another front for the BNP but trying to justify itself on a single issue, and to avoid the same problem they had with membership issues with regards to the membership formerly only being open to caucasians, it's a recruitment drive more or less. Should the protest be banned on the grounds of racial and violent incitement, definetely! It's all well and good saying people should be able to meet freely to protest as and how they want but not to create gangs of thugs hell bent on offending people and violence, wrong is just wrong and I don't want this on the street's, that just rubs it in the face of all those souls who gave their lives to fighting facism during the 2nd world war. I know several veterans who are appallled at the current rise in right wing facism, no matter how it tries to disguise itself.   

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You hypocrite! You are the one who is trying to stop people going to the pub, just because they don't share your left wing wishy washy political views! Pot calling the kettle black methinks!!

Oh la la la, laa la Oh la la land, la la baa baa la la,

Just thought I would speak to you in your own La la land language, see if I could get through!? 

I actually want you to come to Edinburgh as there's only one road in and no road out for the EDL now!! - you will be slayed where you stand HIBS - HEARTS STAND UNITED.

It is actualy the SDL and not the EDL who are organising a protest against Islamic extremeism. I personaly wont be taking part in the protest but I believe that people should be allowed to meet freely to protest without the threat of thugs threatening them with violence.

 

EDL is the SDL it's just clever spin for F's sake there being bused in from England, E/SDL is just another front for the BNP but trying to justify itself on a single issue, and to avoid the same problem they had with membership issues with regards to the membership formerly only being open to caucasians, it's a recruitment drive more or less. Should the protest be banned on the grounds of racial and violent incitement, definetely! It's all well and good saying people should be able to meet freely to protest as and how they want but not to create gangs of thugs hell bent on offending people and violence, wrong is just wrong and I don't want this on the street's, that just rubs it in the face of all those souls who gave their lives to fighting facism during the 2nd world war. I know several veterans who are appallled at the current rise in right wing facism, no matter how it tries to disguise itself.   




Islam is a threat to our nation too!

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You hypocrite! You are the one who is trying to stop people going to the pub, just because they don't share your left wing wishy washy political views! Pot calling the kettle black methinks!!

Oh la la la, laa la Oh la la land, la la baa baa la la,

Just thought I would speak to you in your own La la land language, see if I could get through!? 

I actually want you to come to Edinburgh as there's only one road in and no road out for the EDL now!! - you will be slayed where you stand HIBS - HEARTS STAND UNITED.

It is actualy the SDL and not the EDL who are organising a protest against Islamic extremeism. I personaly wont be taking part in the protest but I believe that people should be allowed to meet freely to protest without the threat of thugs threatening them with violence.

 

EDL is the SDL it's just clever spin for F's sake there being bused in from England, E/SDL is just another front for the BNP but trying to justify itself on a single issue, and to avoid the same problem they had with membership issues with regards to the membership formerly only being open to caucasians, it's a recruitment drive more or less. Should the protest be banned on the grounds of racial and violent incitement, definetely! It's all well and good saying people should be able to meet freely to protest as and how they want but not to create gangs of thugs hell bent on offending people and violence, wrong is just wrong and I don't want this on the street's, that just rubs it in the face of all those souls who gave their lives to fighting facism during the 2nd world war. I know several veterans who are appallled at the current rise in right wing facism, no matter how it tries to disguise itself.   




Islam is a threat to our nation too!

Eh... no it's not! it's a part of our nation. 'Our' being everyone who resides in the UK, not just 'white folk's'.  

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You hypocrite! You are the one who is trying to stop people going to the pub, just because they don't share your left wing wishy washy political views! Pot calling the kettle black methinks!!

Oh la la la, laa la Oh la la land, la la baa baa la la,

Just thought I would speak to you in your own La la land language, see if I could get through!? 

I actually want you to come to Edinburgh as there's only one road in and no road out for the EDL now!! - you will be slayed where you stand HIBS - HEARTS STAND UNITED.

It is actualy the SDL and not the EDL who are organising a protest against Islamic extremeism. I personaly wont be taking part in the protest but I believe that people should be allowed to meet freely to protest without the threat of thugs threatening them with violence.

 

EDL is the SDL it's just clever spin for F's sake there being bused in from England, E/SDL is just another front for the BNP but trying to justify itself on a single issue, and to avoid the same problem they had with membership issues with regards to the membership formerly only being open to caucasians, it's a recruitment drive more or less. Should the protest be banned on the grounds of racial and violent incitement, definetely! It's all well and good saying people should be able to meet freely to protest as and how they want but not to create gangs of thugs hell bent on offending people and violence, wrong is just wrong and I don't want this on the street's, that just rubs it in the face of all those souls who gave their lives to fighting facism during the 2nd world war. I know several veterans who are appallled at the current rise in right wing facism, no matter how it tries to disguise itself.   




Islam is a threat to our nation too!

Eh... no it's not! it's a part of our nation. 'Our' being everyone who resides in the UK, not just 'white folk's'.  

Well, actualy it is a threat to the UK. Islam is on the rise and it is becoming a powerful political, cultural and religious force. We have Islamic lawyers, MPs and terrorists who are determined to advance their Arabic cult. 

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:

Well, actualy it is a threat to the UK. Islam is on the rise and it is becoming a powerful political, cultural and religious force. We have Islamic lawyers, MPs and terrorists who are determined to advance their Arabic cult. 

And 1200 years ago I'm sure people were saying the same about Christianity.

 

Look at our language - we're a country rich with thousands of years of migration.  Obviously there were the celts, migrating to Great Britain from central and eastern europe a couple thousand years ago.  And even further back, the "original" human inhabitants who originally came here from Africa.

 

Since then we've had the massive influence of the Roman Empire, from within which peoples travelled, worked and were posted as soldiers throughout England (and limited extent in Scotland when the Romans occupied here as well).  And the Norman influence a thousand years ago (1066 and all that).  And those are just the famous ones that I think you'll have heard of!

 

So what is this "UK" that is threatened by Islam?  Who are "we"?  What unites and makes different from the Muslims that also live on the same bit of land?

 

The working class has no country.  A flag is just an invention made up by those who would control us for their own ends.

 

Another Glasweigian Anarchist has said it much better than I ever could :

PATRIOTISM.

 

No, I shall not die for the fluttering flag,
if truth be known, ‘tis nothing but a multi-coloured rag
held aloft by some foolish hand
inciting worker and peasant to kill
on some green and wooded hill,
peasant and worker from some other land.

Nor shall I shed blood for the fluttering rag
that brings out fools to stand and brag
of brutal deeds painted grand,
deeds where rustic and craftsman lie so still
killed by my brothers' misguided hand.

No allegiance have I for the Nation
this man made autocratic creation
that divides my brothers in a world so small,
binds us to a country's cause, right or wrong,
bids us follow its drum, sing its song,
then sheds our blood in some border brawl.

No, I'll be no slave to flag or nation,
have no ear for power oration,
though its iron heel is on my breast,
my back feels its leather thong,
at patriotism's barracoon, I'll be no guest.

(John Couzin)

Re: ze germanz

Anonymous wrote:

Since then we've had the massive influence of the Roman Empire, from within which peoples travelled, worked and were posted as soldiers throughout England (and limited extent in Scotland when the Romans occupied here as well).  And the Norman influence a thousand years ago (1066 and all that).  And those are just the famous ones that I think you'll have heard of!

Yes, and ze germanz emmigrated to britain in the 1700's in the tens of thousands. And thousands of them set up bakeries creating tasty german bread where there was only shit english bread before. They dominated every town with their higher quality bakeries, pushing out traditional english bakers. Damn them for destroying our proud english customs of having shit bread!

Here is an excerpt from a documentary, showing how it was for indigenous bakers in those troubled times.

Fortunately this age old tradition of shit bread has returned - The fine indigenous chain store, Gregs, has now ensured that shit indigenous-style bread once again dominates every street. Thank the lord zombie jesus for Gregs, restoring our proud english customs!

Re: ze germanz

The SDL website states: "Show your support for our british troops out there who put their lives on the line every day so we can live our lives worry free. . soldiers out there being killed because they were doing their duty of looking after us and fighting for the queen!"
If the SDL really supported the soldiers them they would support their right to withdraw their labour. They would oppose the prosecution of Joe Glenton and the other soldiers who are refusing to fight. The soldiers are being ordered to look after the profits that the bankers make from of the oil industry! Equating "us" with the rich bastards system is not defending anything but the rich bastards!

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You hypocrite! You are the one who is trying to stop people going to the pub, just because they don't share your left wing wishy washy political views! Pot calling the kettle black methinks!!

Oh la la la, laa la Oh la la land, la la baa baa la la,

Just thought I would speak to you in your own La la land language, see if I could get through!? 

I actually want you to come to Edinburgh as there's only one road in and no road out for the EDL now!! - you will be slayed where you stand HIBS - HEARTS STAND UNITED.

It is actualy the SDL and not the EDL who are organising a protest against Islamic extremeism. I personaly wont be taking part in the protest but I believe that people should be allowed to meet freely to protest without the threat of thugs threatening them with violence.

 

EDL is the SDL it's just clever spin for F's sake there being bused in from England, E/SDL is just another front for the BNP but trying to justify itself on a single issue, and to avoid the same problem they had with membership issues with regards to the membership formerly only being open to caucasians, it's a recruitment drive more or less. Should the protest be banned on the grounds of racial and violent incitement, definetely! It's all well and good saying people should be able to meet freely to protest as and how they want but not to create gangs of thugs hell bent on offending people and violence, wrong is just wrong and I don't want this on the street's, that just rubs it in the face of all those souls who gave their lives to fighting facism during the 2nd world war. I know several veterans who are appallled at the current rise in right wing facism, no matter how it tries to disguise itself.   




Islam is a threat to our nation too!

 

you do realise that america made it a serious threat with the cold war yeah?

The only thing that creates serious threat to our planet is the bilderberg group.

 

 

 

 

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Well, actualy it is a threat to the UK. Islam is on the rise and it is becoming a powerful political, cultural and religious force. We have Islamic lawyers, MPs and terrorists who are determined to advance their Arabic cult. 

And 1200 years ago I'm sure people were saying the same about Christianity.

 

Look at our language - we're a country rich with thousands of years of migration.  Obviously there were the celts, migrating to Great Britain from central and eastern europe a couple thousand years ago.  And even further back, the "original" human inhabitants who originally came here from Africa.

 

Since then we've had the massive influence of the Roman Empire, from within which peoples travelled, worked and were posted as soldiers throughout England (and limited extent in Scotland when the Romans occupied here as well).  And the Norman influence a thousand years ago (1066 and all that).  And those are just the famous ones that I think you'll have heard of!

 

So what is this "UK" that is threatened by Islam?  Who are "we"?  What unites and makes different from the Muslims that also live on the same bit of land?

 

The working class has no country.  A flag is just an invention made up by those who would control us for their own ends.

 

Another Glasweigian Anarchist has said it much better than I ever could :

PATRIOTISM.

 

No, I shall not die for the fluttering flag,
if truth be known, ‘tis nothing but a multi-coloured rag
held aloft by some foolish hand
inciting worker and peasant to kill
on some green and wooded hill,
peasant and worker from some other land.

Nor shall I shed blood for the fluttering rag
that brings out fools to stand and brag
of brutal deeds painted grand,
deeds where rustic and craftsman lie so still
killed by my brothers' misguided hand.

No allegiance have I for the Nation
this man made autocratic creation
that divides my brothers in a world so small,
binds us to a country's cause, right or wrong,
bids us follow its drum, sing its song,
then sheds our blood in some border brawl.

No, I'll be no slave to flag or nation,
have no ear for power oration,
though its iron heel is on my breast,
my back feels its leather thong,
at patriotism's barracoon, I'll be no guest.

(John Couzin)


Every country has an identity, a flag, culture and  history, if you can not accept that fact too bad. I have very little time for people who hate their own country. You are happy enough top carry Palestinian and Cuban flags but you view our own flag as being some sort of symbol of oppresion.

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

You anti-facists do realise that trying to ban facism is a pretty facist thing to do right? Anyone with half a brain could figuire that out.

Re: Anti-fascist campaigners call on bars to ban bigots

Anonymous wrote:

You anti-facists do realise that trying to ban facism is a pretty facist thing to do right? Anyone with half a brain could figuire that out.

Blah blah blah "anti-fasicsts are teh reel fascists!!1!"

By your logic, the 2nd World War was won by fascists.

Meanwhile on planet Earth, preventing racists from organizing unopposed is sensible & decent. You tried to hold a rally intimidating part of the Edinburgh community, and Edinburgh folk e prevented you from doing so. Boohoo.

There's about to be a massive assault by the rich against ordinary folks' conditions in this country, and the EDL are whining on about overblown / imaginary threats from miltant Islam. You want to fight a race war, and have us ignore the class war being fought against us.

Get your priorities straight.

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