GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

A new anti-litter strategy has been unveiled by Glasgow City Council. Amidst great fanfare and wall-to-wall publicity, this week the bright sparks at Glasgow City Council have been trumpeting their 'Clean Glasgow' campaign and the employment of a new army of litter enforcement officers as part of this strategy. With talk of on-the-spot fines of £50 for dropping litter, the question has to be asked though: is this kind of practice legal? The short answer is no. The 'Great Charter' signed by King John at Runnymede in 1215 - still UK law and fully in force - states, and I quote: "For a trivial offence, a free man shall be fined only in proportion to the degree of his offence, and for a serious offence correspondingly, but not so heavily as to deprive him of his livelihood...None of these fines shall be imposed except by the assessment on oath of reputable men of the neighbourhood." Notwithstanding the fact that a £50 charge for littering is clearly disproportionate in relation to the degree of the alleged offence, it is simply not legally possible to impose any fines whatsoever without 'the judgement of your peers', i.e. trial by jury. That people actually pay such so-called fines willingly - ranging from parking to speeding and now littering - which are in essence simply an additional local government tax raising power, masquerading as a penalty charge, is one of the great little tragedies in this country. Citizens of Glasgow would be well advised to send these hucksters demanding money with menaces away with a flea in their ear. Your city council was elected under a mandate to represent and serve the electorate, not become - without any permission or public consultation whatsoever - a practitioner of crime and an agent of illegal punishment against the populace. The Council is also rubbing its hands with glee at the prospect of making £16 million worth of savings in their litter collection budget. Unless they are planning mass redundancies within their Cleansing Departments (wont that be popular!) how exactly are they to effect these savings? Glasgow City Council has a number of problems it needs to tackle, particularly the failing, short-sighted, big-business friendly, regeneration games it plays, whose extensive grassroots shortcomings in actually making a real difference in the lives of the majority of ordinary Glaswegians, particularly the poor, were recently highlighted by the think tank Demos. Cleaning up Glasgow is one thing. But the high-handed imposition of highly excessive, ridiculously inflated penalty charges against a struggling and impoverished populace should indeed be very low down in Glasgow City Council's list of priorities at the moment. Employing a heavy handed band of 'litter cops' to deal with a minor problem - and cleaning up millions in savings and mass redundancies at the Cleansing department in the process - is clearly not the way ahead.

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Re: GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

By Anonymous

I wonder if the person who sprayed "No to GCC parking fines" with an anarchy symbol, in red paint, in the underpass near George's Cross Underground station a while back had anything to do with making up this Demos stuff. How disingenuous it all seems. And quoting laws from the 13th century - what a pretentious form of analysis.. Tabloid anarchism from Demos.

Re: GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

By Anonymous

Demos is a highly respected think tank with an international reputation in civic discourse, whose principle aim is to "promote everyday democracy". It's report - 'The Dreaming City: Glasgow 2020 and The Power of Mass Imagination' - which was written for the people by the people, is quite rightly highly critical of Glasgow City Council's current regeneration strategy. It can be read/downloaded here: http://www.demos.co.uk/publications//thedreamingcity

Re: GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

By Anonymous

Exactly

Re: GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

By Anonymous

Tax on the poor? Only if they litter. There is a cultural problem in Glasgow. Many people seem to show no shame whatsoever about dropping litter. If this council initiative starts to change attitudes then it will be a very good thing. And what is that nonsense about jobs? Council workers are paid from our taxes. There are far better things they could be doing to improve our environment if they weren't having to pick up litter.

Re: GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

By Anonymous

You could try using litter bins, having a clean and tidy place it live isn't such a bad thing!

Re: GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

By Anonymous

Nobody would dispute encouraging people to be clean and tidy and to treat the city streets with respect is a good thing, but how exactly is that achieved by attempting to issue fixed penalty notices willy nilly? At least when environmental enforcement was handled by the police, alleged offenders had the opportunity to clean or tidy up after themselves FIRST. But just like the new parking warden system that was introduced a few years ago, all these litter wardens are interested in doing is issuing tickets. 236 fines issued last week at £50 a time. And 120 issued the first week. Nearly £20,000 made in only the first fortnight. Council leader Steven Purcell has said the new wardens "really mean business". You can say that again - literally! The question is does Glasgow City Council really want to reduce litter? When they are making this amount of money out of it, they must be laughing all the way to the bank Glasgow clearly had an eye on the old Yorkshire saying "where there's muck there's brass" when they thought up this harebrained, but highly lucrative scheme.

Re: GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

By Anonymous

my sister in law was fined £50 today whilst visiting glasgow for throwing a cigarette butt onto the pavement

Re: GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

By Anonymous

Recent research into these things actually suggests most people think a £50 fine is a reasonable fine for dropping litter. Ask Keep Scotland Beautiful who paid for the reasearch. It's not a tax. It's a penalty for breaking the law. If you don't want to pay it, don't drop litter. The vast majority of people in Glasgow want to live in a clean and pleasant city and they should support the council using every tool at their disposal. The millions spent on street cleaning, could be spent on education, if only numpties would stop dropping litter!

Re: GLASGOW ANTI-LITTER STRATEGY: ANOTHER TAX ON THE POOR?

By Anonymous

I agree with the Clean Glasgow campaign in principal cause Glasgow needs to be cleaned up! However the amount of bins I have seen go on fire from cigarettes since the campaign began is ridiculous. Having just received a fine for £50 this morning in the southside at 8.30am for dropping my cigarette butt, well that's all good & well, but where the hell are you meant to put your cigarette butt if there are no bins like on Buchanan Street?! Add more bins in Glasgow & you might not have such a problem, but then sorry I'm forgetting you wouldn't have the dough rolling in from these expensive fines!

Glasgow Litter Offenders' Names Printed!

By Glasgow Man

There's been a significant development in this sorry tale: In a dramatic move by Glasgow's local evening newspaper, the Evening Times, the names and addresses of the first 500 people ticketed for dropping litter in Glasgow have been published in the print version of the newspaper. All of those named "admitted their guilt by paying the £50 fixed penalty fine slapped on them for dropping litter" according to the newspaper.

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